dealing with recruiters

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So let's go ahead and dive in again talking about recruiters today, talking about the job search, how we navigate it. So I'm going to go ahead and dive in questions, right? I don't have any specific thing. I want to say today, I just want to I want to be here for you all again to to act as a service, a source of information and to y'all connect with each other. The more people who comment on my video, the ability, the more ability you're going to be able to network with others, right? We're talking about networking, we're talking about, we're talking about building community. If you comment and like on people's statuses and you engage with people, if Emmett engages with Andrew engages with Thomas engages with Piquita, that develops community, right?

So please comment just honestly for visibility for yourself. The first question I want to get to is on TikTok. Again, thank you all for tuning on TikTok. I appreciate it. How do you deal with LinkedIn recruiters that just message you roles that fit that don't match you? Yeah, so I get this question a lot. It's almost like recruiters don't know how to read because we don't. And the biggest issue that I say, so if you're watching this and again, Al, thank you for asking this question. If you go to my website, TaylorDessin.com, I have 10 questions to stump a recruiter. So what I would do if I were you, anybody who's watching this, go to my website, download that free guy.

download it. And then basically if a recruiter DM's you about a job, just send them that, right? Don't even say, it'll be like, hey, thanks for messaging me. Go ahead and fill this form out for me. This is what I use to obviously screen out recruiters. And so again, use that, TaylorDessin.com, backslash free guides. It is a great way to, it is a great way to screen out recruiters. So Al, thank you for that question again. For those of you who are just in, Alec asked, how do you deal with LinkedIn recruiters or with LinkedIn recruiters that just message you roles that fit that don't match you.

So send them that guide. Also, too, just don't respond. Just move on. Because I said this before and I'll say it again. I know a lot of people don't want to burn bridges, but I'll tell you this. You do not recruiters don't care about you. They just care about responses. So you won't hurt their feelings and not responding back to them. I'm just going to go ahead and add recruiters there. Let's see here. Emmett, how does a recruiter make money? We make money by getting people jobs. So let me break this down real quick. Emmett has a great question on how recruiter makes money. So basically, I have a base salary and then it is very low compared to what you would think.

Because 50 to 75% of my compensation is tied to commission, right? So it's taking a candidate from point A to point B. There's a lot of things in between that I can break down, but it's kind of boring in terms of recruiters. If someone's interested, I can break it down. But for me is what we do is we work out fees and agreements with the companies to pay us. Now, here is the biggest issue when it comes to work with recruiter. A lot of cans get butt hurt because recruiters don't come through. Tell your workers with recruiters for years. They never come through. That's because you don't pay us, right?

I have heard about this in Silicon Valley pre-pandemic about essentially recruiters becoming agents for developers. So developers paying the recruiters, the developers paying the recruiters and then the recruiters go find the jobs for the developers. That is absolutely a thing and that can be a thing. But as a whole, as a whole for the industry, the individuals do not pay us, the companies pass. That's why we are tied to what companies want, right? So Emmet, hope that answers your question. We work out all the fees, all that money with the clients that clients pay us. You don't pay us a dime. If recruiters ask you to pay them for their services, run away screaming.

Another question from TikTok from RFCRJ tips for a speed interview when there's no job posting. tips for a speed interview. Explain on that for me. I will tell you if there's no job posting. One, how did you get the interview? But also two, what I would do if there is no job posting, you're working with the recruiter. They said you up for an interview. Ask the recruiter for the manager. No. So when you work with me as a job seeker, when you work with me, you are going to probably never get a stock job description for me. You are going to get the notes from the intake call, the manager call, what they're looking for specifically.

So if there's no job posting, there's no job description. Ask the recruiter for the specific intake notes. They're also going to be shocked that you ask them that, but that's very, very important. Open application for position 30 minute interview. Yeah. I mean, listen, I think with me, speed interviews with no job posting is like, if you're working with the recruiter, ask them for notes. If you aren't working with the recruiter and you land an interview and there's no real job posting, you need to ask that individual, you're interviewing with for a job description. If that's not possible, then what you need to do is you need to research the company and you need to search on LinkedIn, the people that have your job within that company and try to learn up and try to learn up.

I need more coffee. Try to educate yourself on the skills or technologies that they are using within that specific job. Hopefully, answers your question. I appreciate you for tuning in again. Take talk to have any questions about working with recruiter, please ask me. Let's see here. More questions on how to work with recruiter Andrew. Speaking of AMA, are there sub-red as dedicated to programming? Have you ever trolled around there for potential clients? I will tell you this, Andrew, there's a lot of areas that I want to get into that. I feasibly just don't have time for. I'm honestly thinking about hiring an intern when it comes to a recruiter.

If somebody wants to learn under me, I will get them to chase down these sub-redits. I think that's a great article. I actually had somebody tweet the other day the top 10 job opportunities or the top 10 job places to find opportunities. I didn't know half of them. I need to research them. I don't have time. So, the answer question, Andrew, no. I do not have time to chase down sub-redits, but I would love to. Thomas, good morning, man. Thanks to your news. Good to see you. Piquita, good morning. Yes, Danny, what's up, my man? You were just talking about that, Kathy. Thank you for your kind words.

And what's the wildest job post you've ever seen? Listen, all the ninjas, all the ninja 10x developer, that whole trend. I need ninja. I need a badass. I need all that. That really annoys me. I think there's too much fluff when it comes to jobs, job postings. I think it needs to be specific. You know, for me, I haven't seen any wild job postings, but I think the whole like, I need a ninja and JavaScript or I need like help me find a badass, no developer. Like, I think those are dumb. I'm going to see here, Danny. For any situation, a quick interview or networking, you need one thing that will change everything.

Elevator pitch. You're 15 second pitch about you that you will make anyone immediately interested in you and make them want to find out more. Yeah, I think, I think, listen, I think the big thing when it comes to interviewing, right, when it comes to interviewing, you have to talk about yourself. I mean, Danny brings up a great question. You're also go follow Danny. Danny is an absolute monster on LinkedIn and Twitter. I'm just trying to be like him is Danny's world. We all live in it as like I say. I don't say that. I just said that now, but you have to develop a pitch, right?

People struggle with interviews because they get interviews and an interview goes, hey, tell me about yourself and you don't sell yourself. You don't do anything and you just are blank and then you're and then you get out and that's and then you flounder and it's not good. So it's not good at all. Let's see here. So somebody on TikTok just came across you are my four you page. That's awesome. For applying such interviews when I haven't worked because of health causes. Yes. So this is a great question. Thank you. Living on glue. I appreciate having worked really last two years. So here's what I would do.

Great question. I'm going to repeat this again. Just came across to you for the 40 page. Any tips for applying such interviews when I haven't worked because of health causes. So here's my thing. First off, I hope you're doing better. TikTok user. I hope you're healthy. For me, I think one you got to tell a story. Right. You got to tell a story. I think two you need to develop a portfolio. I don't know what skill set you are in. I don't know if you're in tech. I don't take talk user. I don't know what skill set you hold. But for me is developing a portfolio, developing a developing a book report.

I don't know what else to say. Just highlight stuff. Right. Because I think a lot of times people come into interviews after having not worked in a while. And they can't speak to anything they've done in the past. Right. Again, when it comes to interviewing, you have to be able to talk about yourself. Right. And so for me, what I would do is when writing an interview, your interview has got to be that much more specific. Right. Like I'm telling you, you have to be your resume has got to be amazing. Right. Really dig into interviewing or your resume writing. You have to know about all your accomplishments front to back before you walk into that interview.

And also too, if you are healthy now, take talk user, if you are healthy, try to take on some freelance projects now. Try to take on some free work now to start adding to your portfolio to show that you are taking on work now. That's hopefully that answers your question again. Hope you're feeling better. And thank you again for asking that again. Recruit our AMA today. I'm going to keep going until I answer these things. We got a good case going. So keep asking. Let's see here. Clay asked, I always throw in my video pitches. If you aren't interested, don't let me waste your time.

It won't hurt my feelings. I struggle a lot with consistency of posting. So just started jogging down ideas throughout the day. Yeah. So Clay is a recruiter. And yeah, I mean, I think video goes a long way right now. I think I think we're going to be in this world, this virtual world from here on out to a certain extent. I know my office is my company slowly going back in an office. But I mean, I think for me, I think staying consistent. I think Clay, I think with me, I think it's just do something every day. I think people get so overwhelmed when it comes to the job search.

I think people get overwhelmed when it comes to getting started. Just do one thing a day and don't beat yourself up. Oh, man, I didn't do anything today. I suck all this negative self talk. Just stop. Not a big deal. Just move on. I'm at Emmett with the with the Laffy face. Yes, Clay, Danny's awesome. So Danny goes when looking for cancer, where are the places that you usually search? Where is the first place you start? Where is the last place you look? Danny, I love this so much. Of course you're asking amazing questions because you're an amazing individual. Obviously I'm a big fan of Danny if you haven't figured out.

So the first so my job as a recruiter has morphed over the last 10 years. Also, by the way, I have been recruiting. for 10 years. 10 years this year. I will tell you this. That is a long time. Most recruiters bounce after a year and a half. I've been doing this thing for 10 years this year. Isn't that crazy? 2011 is when I started. It is 2021. I have a wife and a kid now. That is crazy. So to answer Danny's question, when looking for cancer, what places do you where do you start? I look at places differently than my team does because of where I'm at my career versus them.

I now pretty much do not use LinkedIn or DICE or I don't use the job boards even though I think they're important for me. I go to my network. So if you extrapolate my network, I've been dev recruiting for six, seven years now. Let's say I've met over four, five thousand developers at this point. So for me, it's incredibly important for me just to maintain my network. So I go there first. Then what I do is then I go to probably LinkedIn. I will tell you this. I was taught as a recruiter to come in and immediately go to DICE, career builder, monster indeed. And most of my team goes there first.

So it depends where you're at your career as a recruiter. The last place I look is probably career builder. I haven't used career builder a bit, but their product was pretty terrible. career product owner at career builder. And you happen to come across this live feed. I would love to chat with you and how to improve your product. DICE though is fantastic. Indeed is great. I think LinkedIn, Danny's an evangelist on LinkedIn. I think LinkedIn's huge. I've also started to get cans off Twitter as well. So Twitter is another underrated platform, but you have to know how to use it. I may do a Twitter AMA this week.

Danny, I may get you on. I may shoot you at the end. Piquita, that is so true. Normalizing, practicing, getting normalizing, talking to yourself is what I say. Normalizing, practicing the mirror. So you can see your expression. You can hear if you sound crazy or not. Do it with family friends and make it a part of the interview prep process. So Danny, I don't know if you're still watching, but I will tell you this. Me speaking to myself, like I see myself speak right now. Me doing this for the last year has allowed me to improve on my communication style. Danny, I don't know if you're still watching, but tell me a comment if that's what's happening to you.

I have changed how I speak, how I move, how I just how I am in general speaking has changed, has changed because of that I'm speaking to you every day, that I'm looking at myself every day. For me, I think that's what you need to do with interviewing. Listen, there are people out there who do interview coaching. Like, take those people up, right? If you want to use me, go to my website, fill out a form, let's line something up, right? So it's like, I think for me, you have to normalize talking to yourself, normalize talking to yourself in front of your mirror. I would film yourself.

I'm minor than public speaking in college. Basically, Danny, yeah, so you're still here. So let me know if speaking to basically yourself for the last year has elevated your speaking game. Let me know. But yeah, that's incredibly important. When I was minoring in public speaking in college, we had to record ourselves a lot and you realize how terrible you are at speaking once you start recording yourself. I would do that for an interview. Beyond, could come through here to clutch. Also, don't cry in an interview if you can help it. Don't cry. Cry after. I've cried after an interview. Don't cry during. That's just awkward for everybody involved.

Emmett, what are your thoughts on a captain's log daily audio clip with what I'm doing? Yeah. That's a great thing. This kind of transfers more into content creation, which we can talk about too. So I'm all about documenting your journey. As a junior dev, I think you need to. I think junior devs have it the best when it comes to content creation because you're constantly learning. Right. Now, a lot of people are like, well, I don't know. I'm not a writer. I don't know what to post. Listen, just doc, what are you learning today? Are you learning hooks within React? Are you learning AWS serverless stuff?

That's incredibly important. And so for Emmett, what are your thoughts on captain's logs? But for me, I think if you don't have time to write, I think audio clips are huge. I think I tweeted this a bag a while back is I think you should just talk to your phone and just post something. Then with a little copy, right? I think copies incredibly important. Like get people to actually listen to your audio. But I think audio is the fastest way. I now send audio emails, audio texts, audio memos, all the time because it's so much faster. So Emmett, yes, highly agree. You should do that every day.

A few questions coming on TikTok. This is great. Again, this is the point of this, right? I want to develop community to allow other people to learn from other people's experiences. So a few questions coming on TikTok from Alec on TikTok. Any tips for figuring out fair, total compensation. How do I know my value? Was a junior dev got a $25,000 raise and I'm not junior anymore? Maybe. Yeah, so I think for me, this is good. This is a good question when it comes to knowing your worth. I think one, you have to do a lot of research. I think you have to do a lot of research.

I think you need to salary.com it. I think you need to Google just developer ranges, shoot me an email, shoot me a DM. I can answer those at a super high level with what I'm seeing, which is now changing because it's across the country. But when I say figuring out fair, total compensation, I think talk to people who have been in your shoes. If you feel comfortable talking to somebody with your skill set and where you're at, if y'all are at the same place in your career and y'all feel comfortable talking cop, like do that. I think that's the biggest thing. There are people at Vaco that I'm friends with that I share all my compensation details to make sure it's in line.

I think it's incredibly important to have some people you trust. I think salaries is taboo thing. And so I think the more you can talk about people that you know and your friends with that are being reported. I think you need to drop the titles, right? Junior, mid, senior, right? Those are all vague, right? You can be a principal engineer at one company and you could tech out a senior or even, maybe not even mid, but like senior at another company, titles aren't a thing. So TikTok user Alec, when it comes to like was a junior dev guy $25,000, right? Now I'm not a junior engineer.

I would say one, you're not a junior engineer if you got $25,000, right? But also don't view yourself as a junior engineer or mid level. Just go and do and be your, your job as a script guy or girl. Just go. Don't get caught up in titles. Unless you're chasing titles, which is another thing we can talk about. Let's see here. F in the chat for career builder. Yeah, I don't love career builder. Danny, as I never intended so I've asked Danny this could Danny again as a force when it comes to this stuff. I've never intended to be a public speaker just happened and I keep working on it.

So doing live streams recording myself or just practicing a few responses in my car on the way some are amazing ways to improve them. Recording is help because I can review it after the fact. It's, it lets me make necessary tweaks now and book until February 15th. Sick brag Danny. Yeah. I mean, listen, I think when it comes to interviewing, when it comes to dealing with people, I think the more you can get comfortable in front of a camera, if that's for you, if it's not for you, do the thing like Emmett said, right? The whole captain's log. Where's that comment? Here it is. Captain's log, right?

Audio clips, right? Twitter, Twitter's got spaces and Twitter's got audio tweets. Like if you love to talk about hate talking on video, do that. If you love writing and hate audio and video, do that. Just do something when it comes to expanding your network day in and out. All right. I think we're done. TikTok, any more questions, LinkedIn, any more questions? I didn't even get to the questions that have been asked to me. So I will do that tomorrow. We will be back tomorrow, 9 30 a.m. central to go over more recruiter AMA. I think we're just going to do AMA for a bit because I think that allows people to learn the best.

I can sit here and talk about topics and I will do that and I will continue to do that. But the end of the day, Alec on TikTok can learn from clay on LinkedIn or Emmett on LinkedIn can learn from Christopher Wallace who just joined in on TikTok. So that's important. Oh, David. So David comes in, Hello Taylor, any tips to improve my communication skills, just like what we have been talking about. Video, video yourself, do audio, write the one thing that's helped me the most is writing. When it comes to communication skills, flat out record yourself doing a mock interview over and over and over again until you're comfortable with it.

That's the way to improve on it. Thomas goes one piece of advice that one piece of advice you've given in the past. I think about because I haven't done it yet that relates to the elevator pitch data measures when you mentioned pending a short about me. Oh, yeah. So about me on Twitter, I think you should have an about me talking about yourself on LinkedIn and Twitter and pin it. Right. So LinkedIn's got three or has a featured section, pin it there. I know one girl in Germany, and I'm at Google, she got a job because of her video that she posted about herself. So I think it's incredibly important.

I think the more that you can post about yourself and get comfortable interviewing for the job search, the more successful you'll be down the road. Yeah. I'll thank you again for tuning. Wonderful. I appreciate I'm going to be live tomorrow, 9 30 am central put on your calendar. Let's do this again. More questions about recruiters job search. I'm here for you. If you need me, shoot me an email, join my texting community, go to my website. I appreciate you all ton. Piquita. I appreciate you. You all have a great week. Chris, you all is Monday and I'll see you tomorrow. Peace.